The Sheplers number for these boots are 034A09. You can order them directly with the operator, or ask them for the Lucchese model number. USually when A distributor has a pair of boots from a manufacturer they are exclusive to the distributor. If there is a universal product then you should be able to find it on Lucchese's web page. As a rule of thumb order through the operator, if seen elsewhere, then check webpage for Lucchese.